Change the Rating System to 0-100


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Szymon 🇮🇱 | 32 ratings Author Posted 18 Mar '24

I strongly believe that the 1 to 10 rating system is too simplified and not able to reflect all the nuances and steppings among closely rated Rums. this should be at last and at least changed to a 0-100 scale to allow us to show the subtle differences between closely rated rums.

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dougw 🇺🇸 | 36 ratings Replied 18 Mar '24

I agree that 1-10 is too coarse, at least have 0.5 increments.  0-100 may be more resolution than we really need, but I'd prefer that over the existing 0-10. 

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Stefan Persson (PREMIUM) 🇸🇪 | 513 ratings Replied 18 Mar '24

I also think that 1-10 is a bit blunt so I use a decimal, for example 7.4 which I write in my title so that those who read my review will get a better idea of ​​what I think.
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Andy (PREMIUM) 🇬🇧 | 143 ratings Replied 19 Mar '24

I was going to make 0.1 increments a premium feature a few years ago, but quite a few users advocated for it to remain only 1-10. Here's a recent discussion on the topic, I know there are others from the past as well. https://rumratings.com/comments/9577-rating-scores.

One downside to having more than 10 options is that it supposedly dissuades new and 'average' users from rating, but we could get around that by making the 0.1 increments a premium feature.

I've had a 1 day estimate for development time to complete this task. If 5+ basic users would upgrade for 0.1 being included as a premium feature indicate so by liking this post and I'll move forward with it.

*0.1 would not alter the existing 1-10 scale vs changing all to 0-100**the 1-10 bottle UX would need to change to a slider, so 0.1 would loose the bottle buttons

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LUKAŽIGA 🇸🇮 | 113 ratings Replied 19 Mar '24

Increments 0,1 should be Added to the Basic feature. Whoever would not want to Use detailed reviewing, could stay with 1,0-2,0-3,0 etc. -10,0.

Best regards. 

Aleš 

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Andy (PREMIUM) 🇬🇧 | 143 ratings Replied 19 Mar '24

After many years of losing money on RR, unfortunately it's tough to keep adding features without making them premium benefits. FYI all premium memberships combined just about cover the hosting and security costs of the site, not accounting for any improvements or new features...

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Szymon 🇮🇱 | 32 ratings Author Replied 22 Mar '24

@Andy, i really appreciate your investment of money and time on Rum Ratings! as for the issue in the topic, with the little experience i had from the owner side of much bigger websites than RR is. (i used to be a Chief Editor of a web mag with over 40 million page views per month. unfortunately i was not the owner but i know the costs of owning servers and hosting php platform based websites. including security.changing the the input value of the rating system should be a simple param change. i believe it would be easier to change 1-10 to 1-100 (all you have to do is to add a 0) than adding special features such as decimal increments, etc. beyond this i would rather not say a word. as i appreciate highly this site. but this should be regarded as special feature request. and with all due respect this is a content based website, and your customers are the content creators.  making your platform better should be seen as adding a special feature.as for myself, unfortunatlely i live in a war zone, and also in a country in which the rum market and rum import are not very developed and rum sipping is niche for very few. so before struggling with our expensive daily life here, and then with the expensive duties on the Rum we can find and afford to buy, in this country your requested pricing is bit too steep for a website in which the visitor is mostly contributing the content. it's not that i would not like to donate for a website i love, but i don't find the annual cost of membership worth the value of what is served for this price, not depending on market. perhaps you may be overpaying for your server and security costs. best regards!(This comment was powered by PITU Cachaca)

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Andy (PREMIUM) 🇬🇧 | 143 ratings Replied 20 Apr '24

@Szymon sorry for not replying sooner, I did read and appreciate your comment and thought about a response, but guess I never wrote it :)

First off, thanks for the suggestion on how to implement more granular price increments in a more easier/cheaper way. In this case, the challenge is not mostly the data but rather 'hooking up' the frontend selection. Currently, the 1-10 system uses images (on + off) as icons that act as buttons a user can click. Moving to either 1-100 or 1-10 with 1/10 decimals means we need a different visual system to select - likely a slider. Then you probably know everything is harder being a responsive site and also finding a high-performance solution that doesn't slow the page down. On a side note, we're moving totally off jQuery in favor of Stimulus, which makes the site a LOT faster but limits the out of the box plugins we can use 

You're right in terms of the cost and which features should be paid - it's always a hard balance. With most content based sites, the preferred monetization is ads... which I'm guessing was a major source of revenue for your 40m/mo view site. I chose very early to heavily limit the use of ads on RR in favor of a better user experience, and more recently completely removed offsite ad API requests because they slowed down the site so much - a major aspect users would complain about. Based on this discussion, I think it's worth revisiting monetizing through ads for users like you who find the $19.99/yr cost more than you'd like to pay. But at least in the short term, historically such a low % of users have converted to Premium that I'm always trying to think of ways to 'spur' more on to find Premium valuable enough.

PS, my day job is actually in venture capital (I previously had offices in both Haifa and Tel Aviv), and you'd be surprised how little the RR infrastructure costs (and development) compared to similar sites with such an extensive backend. So the 'hurdle' of RR being breakeven is actually quite small - likely a combination of a higher Premium conversion and some tasteful ads will get us to breakeven :)

If you ever have additional thoughts about how to improve RR, I'm truly all ears - please don't hesitate to email me directly at rumratings@gmail.com