Stefan Persson avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by Stefan Persson (PREMIUM) 🇸🇪 | 511 ratings

I think it's quite simple, just don't buy overpriced limited releases from Mr. Gargano and other independent bottlers, who are the ones driving this development along with those who are speculating in my opinion. Let those who speculates in alcohol have their little fun for themselves. The fewer people who show interest in these bottlings, the smaller the price increase will be and thus the inter...
vomi1011 avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by vomi1011 🇩🇪 | 402 ratings

4000 bottles worldwide, 2000 EU/UK and 2000 for US. Destino is 2y bourbon, 12y madeira. It's something like Destino. Here are some bottle numbers: Mark I – “1998” 1998-2008 10 YO, Bourbon Cask, 40%, 15,000 bottles Mark II – “Port Cask Finish” 2005-2014 9YO, 3yr-Bourbon, 6yr-Port, 40%, 30,000 bottles Mark III – “2004” 2004-2015 11 YO, Bourbon Cask, 59%, 24,000 bottles Mark I...
KU

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by kudzey 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings

Vomi, what about the US versions of the Criterion?...

Bozkov Republica Espresso rum

Bozkov Republica Espresso review posted over 2 years ago by bbela 🇸🇰 | 5 ratings

Príjemná kávová chuť aj vôňa.Fakt odporúčam aspoň raz vyskúšať.Nie je na to aby sme sa opili z tohto rumu (likéru)ale skôr len na ochutnávanie.
Chuť je trošku taká ťažšia,ako u likérov.Je to skôr likér, a nie rum.
S tým treba počítať.

Finom kávé íz és aroma.Ajánlom legalább egyszer kipróbálni.Persze nem arra arra van hogy berúgjunk tőle,inkább csak az íze miatt néha inni belőle egyet-egyet.Kicsit nehéz ital,mint a likőrök általában, mivel ez is inkább likőr és nem rum.Ezzel számoljunk mielőtt megvesszük.

Santiago de Cuba Extra Anejo 20-Year rum

Santiago de Cuba Extra Anejo 20-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Köszönjük a kubai barátainknak, hogy nem felejtettek el rumot csinálni.A kubai rumok amúgy is egy külön kategória,ez pedig nem hazudik

Santiago de Cuba Anejo Superior 11-Year rum

Santiago de Cuba Anejo Superior 11-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Ez egy telitalálat,csak valamiért nem kapható.vagy csak magyarországra nem ér el? Jobb mint a 12 éves testvére

Arcane Extraroma 12-Year rum

Arcane Extraroma 12-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Nehéz elképzelni, hogy hogyan tudták ezt az ízvilágot létrehozni hozzáadott cuccok nélkül.én az ilyen furákat nem is értem,és nem is szeretem

Dictador Solera Distillery Icon Reserve 20-Year rum

Dictador Solera Distillery Icon Reserve 20-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

A "dió" rum.kötelező darab.legalább is én kötelezővé tenném minden kocsmába

Dictador Solera Ultra Premium Reserve 12-Year rum

Dictador Solera Ultra Premium Reserve 12-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Ez egy belépő az igazán finom rumok világába,ne szabad kihagyni

Abuelo Gran Reserva 12-Year rum

Abuelo Gran Reserva 12-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Szeretjük a nagypapát.panama is jó hely lehet, ha ilyeneket tudnak

Abuelo Reserva Superior 7-Year rum

Abuelo Reserva Superior 7-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Bármikor,bárhol,bármennyit.Talán a legjobb az "olcsó" kategóriában

Paul B avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by Paul B 🇺🇸 | 471 ratings

Lucky me lives near a major USA port city and we have yet to see these crazy price hikes on rum. However, the whisky collector market is totally nuts and driving up prices on all spirits. I am thankful to still be able to get really good rums for less than $150 US. By the way, that bottle of Caroni 17 Year is not only still sitting behind that locked cabinet for more than a month, but the price w...
vomi1011 avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by vomi1011 🇩🇪 | 402 ratings

There were 1200 bottles of Criterion in the UK and 800 in Europe. I think it's more common there. Still, those 700 pounds are insane.Yes, there is a rise in prices but there are still good bottlings. What I see are more and more bottlings that don't make sense to me....
KU

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by kudzey 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings

By the way, it is also stunning how Brexit influenced the prices. For instance, the Criterion was sold for 975 GBP in the EU, and for less than 700 GBP in the UK....
KU

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by kudzey 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings

By the way, I am also amazed how Brexit influenced the prices: i.e. the Criterion was sold for 975 in the EU, while it is priced some 700 in the UK right now....
KU

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by kudzey 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings

By the way, I am also amazed how Brexit influenced the prices: i.e. the Criterion was sold for 975 in the EU, while it is priced some 700 in the UK right now....
Centenario 30-Year rum

Centenario 30-Year review posted over 2 years ago by Dimitris 🇬🇷 | 87 ratings

Centenario 30 is a bit different from 25 and 20, flavour goes to another direction... much less sweetness than other two which is ok, but it is a bit simple for this price. Smell reminds me Opthimus 21 & taste is closer to Unhiq XO which is cheaper but also bit expensive for 500 ml (if you think that Quorhum 30 from same company is older and much cheaper). Some days before I had taste again (as many times) Zacapa Roayal (which is also overpriced as all drinks over 200 euro) and that was richer-bolder-rounder & sweeter with many different types of aging (bourbon, cognac, wine, cherry, smoked & toasted oak....) and all them together produce great complexity, natural sweetness and make the blend more oily, interesting complexity and intense flavours!! Something which in Centenario 30 was missing for the price (as in Unhiq XO & Milonario XO). Flavour profile is medium sweet some light spices, vanilla, slightly velvet feeling and at the end some oak of whiskey-bourbon but soft. It is balance and nice dont get me wrong but not that unique, a touch more "special" than most rums with price around 40-70 euro. You can get at half price Quorhum 30 which is great expirience, more wooden toasted casck which I like, or El Dorado 21... I dont say they are much better, are about equal and they have their problems but at least with character & much cheaper!! And I can understud some people who says that love more 20 or 25 which got more flavours... For expirience drinkers value for money rums I would suggest are El Dorado 21, Ron Cubaney 30, Quorhum 30 and maybe Melteco Selection 1987 (bit pricey but nice experience). Further from that all Centenario 30 is a nice quality rum with delicate smoothness and enjoyable (but until there).

Mr. Rumantic avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by Mr. Rumantic 🇩🇪 | 296 ratings

I also find the development very sad and think soon you will not get a well-stored rum in cask strength for example from Jamaica or Guyana under 100 €. Above all, almost all bottlings are now affected. And everyone is participating. The online shops unfortunately too. There I find a RA Fiji for 300€ or a Velier Hampden 2016 for 199€. Prices are going up completely crazy. And also very fast. The on...
TO

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 14 Dec '21 by Toni 🇩🇪 | 36 ratings

@vomi I will ask you for samples again then :)...
J. Bally 2006 Le 70th Anniversarie de Velier 11-Year rum

J. Bally 2006 Le 70th Anniversarie de Velier 11-Year review posted over 2 years ago by Mr. Rumantic 🇩🇪 | 296 ratings

The J Bally 2006 Velier 70th Anniversary is an Agricole Rhum from Martinique, which was produced in The Column Still and was then allowed to mature for 12 years. On the occasion of the 70th anniversary of Velier, it was bottled with 43% alcohol in drinking strength.

The nose shows that the Rhum has a lot to offer. Lots of fresh fruit and berries, vanilla and baking spices such as cinnamon. With floral Agricole notes with wood, the rhum has a great nose. On the palate, the rhum comes very directly and has pleasant grassy notes, with some citrus, mint and great fruit. The cinnamon comes back and the rhum becomes spicier. The wood now plays along and shows beautiful barrel notes. The floral part comes back and agricolenots share the finish with bitter substances and some tart cocoa.

A great rhum, in which the 43% are well placed, even if the finish seems a bit trimmed. All in all, a high-quality, complex Agricole , which convinces. Unfortunately also not cheap in the purchase.

Der J Bally 2006 Velier 70th Anniversary ist ein Agricole Rhum aus Martinique, welcher im Column Still hergestellt wurde und anschließend 12 Jahre reifen durfte. Er wurde anlässlich des 70. Jahrestag von Velier mit 43% Alkohol in Trinkstärke abgefüllt.

In der Nase zeigt sich, dass der Rhum einiges zu bieten hat. Viel frische Frucht und Beeren, Vanille und Backgewürze wie Zimt, florale Agricole Noten mit Holz hat der Rhum eine tolle Nase. Am Gaumen kommt der Rhum sehr direkt und hat angenehme grassige Noten, mit etwas Zitrus, Minze und einer tollen Fruchtnote. Der Zimt kommt wieder und der Rhum wird würziger. Das Holz spielt nun mit und zeigt schöne Fassnoten. Die floralen Note kommt wieder und Agricolenoten teilen sich den Abgang mit Bitterstoffen und etwas herben Kakao.

Ein toller Rhum, bei dem die 43% gut plaziert sind, auch wenn dadurch der Abgang etwas beschnitten wirkt. Alles in allem ein hochwertiger, komplexer Agricole , welcher überzeugt. Leider auch nicht günstig in der Anschaffung.

Ryoma 7-Year rum

Ryoma 7-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Ennek tequila íze van,sosem felejtem el. Van még mit tanulni

Brugal Siglo de Oro rum

Brugal Siglo de Oro review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Sajnos már csak halványan emlékszem rá.ez volt életem első felsőkategóriás itala.újra kéne kóstolni

Brugal 1888 rum

Brugal 1888 review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Szerintem ez az ital a brugal érzés megtestesítőlye.imádom

Brugal Leyenda rum

Brugal Leyenda review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Brugal érzés, kicsit édesebben.Ezt már a nem brugal rajongók is meg tudják inni

Brugal Extra Viejo Gran Reserva rum

Brugal Extra Viejo Gran Reserva review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Imádom a Brugálokat.az összeset.Van vmi durva íz, ami mindegyikben megvan,ettől lesz felismerhető és egyedi

Stefan Persson avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by Stefan Persson (PREMIUM) 🇸🇪 | 511 ratings

I think it's quite simple, just don't buy overpriced limited releases from Mr. Gargano and other independent bottlers, who are the ones driving this development along with those who are speculating in my opinion. Let those who speculates in alcohol have their little fun for themselves. The fewer people who show interest in these bottlings, the smaller the price increase will be and thus the inter...
vomi1011 avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by vomi1011 🇩🇪 | 402 ratings

4000 bottles worldwide, 2000 EU/UK and 2000 for US. Destino is 2y bourbon, 12y madeira. It's something like Destino. Here are some bottle numbers: Mark I – “1998” 1998-2008 10 YO, Bourbon Cask, 40%, 15,000 bottles Mark II – “Port Cask Finish” 2005-2014 9YO, 3yr-Bourbon, 6yr-Port, 40%, 30,000 bottles Mark III – “2004” 2004-2015 11 YO, Bourbon Cask, 59%, 24,000 bottles Mark I...
KU

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by kudzey 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings

Vomi, what about the US versions of the Criterion?...

Bozkov Republica Espresso rum

Bozkov Republica Espresso review posted over 2 years ago by bbela 🇸🇰 | 5 ratings

Príjemná kávová chuť aj vôňa.Fakt odporúčam aspoň raz vyskúšať.Nie je na to aby sme sa opili z tohto rumu (likéru)ale skôr len na ochutnávanie.
Chuť je trošku taká ťažšia,ako u likérov.Je to skôr likér, a nie rum.
S tým treba počítať.

Finom kávé íz és aroma.Ajánlom legalább egyszer kipróbálni.Persze nem arra arra van hogy berúgjunk tőle,inkább csak az íze miatt néha inni belőle egyet-egyet.Kicsit nehéz ital,mint a likőrök általában, mivel ez is inkább likőr és nem rum.Ezzel számoljunk mielőtt megvesszük.

Santiago de Cuba Extra Anejo 20-Year rum

Santiago de Cuba Extra Anejo 20-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Köszönjük a kubai barátainknak, hogy nem felejtettek el rumot csinálni.A kubai rumok amúgy is egy külön kategória,ez pedig nem hazudik

Santiago de Cuba Anejo Superior 11-Year rum

Santiago de Cuba Anejo Superior 11-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Ez egy telitalálat,csak valamiért nem kapható.vagy csak magyarországra nem ér el? Jobb mint a 12 éves testvére

Arcane Extraroma 12-Year rum

Arcane Extraroma 12-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Nehéz elképzelni, hogy hogyan tudták ezt az ízvilágot létrehozni hozzáadott cuccok nélkül.én az ilyen furákat nem is értem,és nem is szeretem

Dictador Solera Distillery Icon Reserve 20-Year rum

Dictador Solera Distillery Icon Reserve 20-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

A "dió" rum.kötelező darab.legalább is én kötelezővé tenném minden kocsmába

Dictador Solera Ultra Premium Reserve 12-Year rum

Dictador Solera Ultra Premium Reserve 12-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Ez egy belépő az igazán finom rumok világába,ne szabad kihagyni

Abuelo Gran Reserva 12-Year rum

Abuelo Gran Reserva 12-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Szeretjük a nagypapát.panama is jó hely lehet, ha ilyeneket tudnak

Abuelo Reserva Superior 7-Year rum

Abuelo Reserva Superior 7-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Bármikor,bárhol,bármennyit.Talán a legjobb az "olcsó" kategóriában

Paul B avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by Paul B 🇺🇸 | 471 ratings

Lucky me lives near a major USA port city and we have yet to see these crazy price hikes on rum. However, the whisky collector market is totally nuts and driving up prices on all spirits. I am thankful to still be able to get really good rums for less than $150 US. By the way, that bottle of Caroni 17 Year is not only still sitting behind that locked cabinet for more than a month, but the price w...
vomi1011 avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by vomi1011 🇩🇪 | 402 ratings

There were 1200 bottles of Criterion in the UK and 800 in Europe. I think it's more common there. Still, those 700 pounds are insane.Yes, there is a rise in prices but there are still good bottlings. What I see are more and more bottlings that don't make sense to me....
KU

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by kudzey 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings

By the way, it is also stunning how Brexit influenced the prices. For instance, the Criterion was sold for 975 GBP in the EU, and for less than 700 GBP in the UK....
KU

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by kudzey 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings

By the way, I am also amazed how Brexit influenced the prices: i.e. the Criterion was sold for 975 in the EU, while it is priced some 700 in the UK right now....
KU

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by kudzey 🇵🇱 | 38 ratings

By the way, I am also amazed how Brexit influenced the prices: i.e. the Criterion was sold for 975 in the EU, while it is priced some 700 in the UK right now....
Centenario 30-Year rum

Centenario 30-Year review posted over 2 years ago by Dimitris 🇬🇷 | 87 ratings

Centenario 30 is a bit different from 25 and 20, flavour goes to another direction... much less sweetness than other two which is ok, but it is a bit simple for this price. Smell reminds me Opthimus 21 & taste is closer to Unhiq XO which is cheaper but also bit expensive for 500 ml (if you think that Quorhum 30 from same company is older and much cheaper). Some days before I had taste again (as many times) Zacapa Roayal (which is also overpriced as all drinks over 200 euro) and that was richer-bolder-rounder & sweeter with many different types of aging (bourbon, cognac, wine, cherry, smoked & toasted oak....) and all them together produce great complexity, natural sweetness and make the blend more oily, interesting complexity and intense flavours!! Something which in Centenario 30 was missing for the price (as in Unhiq XO & Milonario XO). Flavour profile is medium sweet some light spices, vanilla, slightly velvet feeling and at the end some oak of whiskey-bourbon but soft. It is balance and nice dont get me wrong but not that unique, a touch more "special" than most rums with price around 40-70 euro. You can get at half price Quorhum 30 which is great expirience, more wooden toasted casck which I like, or El Dorado 21... I dont say they are much better, are about equal and they have their problems but at least with character & much cheaper!! And I can understud some people who says that love more 20 or 25 which got more flavours... For expirience drinkers value for money rums I would suggest are El Dorado 21, Ron Cubaney 30, Quorhum 30 and maybe Melteco Selection 1987 (bit pricey but nice experience). Further from that all Centenario 30 is a nice quality rum with delicate smoothness and enjoyable (but until there).

Mr. Rumantic avatar image

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 17 Nov '21 by Mr. Rumantic 🇩🇪 | 296 ratings

I also find the development very sad and think soon you will not get a well-stored rum in cask strength for example from Jamaica or Guyana under 100 €. Above all, almost all bottlings are now affected. And everyone is participating. The online shops unfortunately too. There I find a RA Fiji for 300€ or a Velier Hampden 2016 for 199€. Prices are going up completely crazy. And also very fast. The on...
TO

Crazy rum or why the rum market goes nuts

Posted 14 Dec '21 by Toni 🇩🇪 | 36 ratings

@vomi I will ask you for samples again then :)...
J. Bally 2006 Le 70th Anniversarie de Velier 11-Year rum

J. Bally 2006 Le 70th Anniversarie de Velier 11-Year review posted over 2 years ago by Mr. Rumantic 🇩🇪 | 296 ratings

The J Bally 2006 Velier 70th Anniversary is an Agricole Rhum from Martinique, which was produced in The Column Still and was then allowed to mature for 12 years. On the occasion of the 70th anniversary of Velier, it was bottled with 43% alcohol in drinking strength.

The nose shows that the Rhum has a lot to offer. Lots of fresh fruit and berries, vanilla and baking spices such as cinnamon. With floral Agricole notes with wood, the rhum has a great nose. On the palate, the rhum comes very directly and has pleasant grassy notes, with some citrus, mint and great fruit. The cinnamon comes back and the rhum becomes spicier. The wood now plays along and shows beautiful barrel notes. The floral part comes back and agricolenots share the finish with bitter substances and some tart cocoa.

A great rhum, in which the 43% are well placed, even if the finish seems a bit trimmed. All in all, a high-quality, complex Agricole , which convinces. Unfortunately also not cheap in the purchase.

Der J Bally 2006 Velier 70th Anniversary ist ein Agricole Rhum aus Martinique, welcher im Column Still hergestellt wurde und anschließend 12 Jahre reifen durfte. Er wurde anlässlich des 70. Jahrestag von Velier mit 43% Alkohol in Trinkstärke abgefüllt.

In der Nase zeigt sich, dass der Rhum einiges zu bieten hat. Viel frische Frucht und Beeren, Vanille und Backgewürze wie Zimt, florale Agricole Noten mit Holz hat der Rhum eine tolle Nase. Am Gaumen kommt der Rhum sehr direkt und hat angenehme grassige Noten, mit etwas Zitrus, Minze und einer tollen Fruchtnote. Der Zimt kommt wieder und der Rhum wird würziger. Das Holz spielt nun mit und zeigt schöne Fassnoten. Die floralen Note kommt wieder und Agricolenoten teilen sich den Abgang mit Bitterstoffen und etwas herben Kakao.

Ein toller Rhum, bei dem die 43% gut plaziert sind, auch wenn dadurch der Abgang etwas beschnitten wirkt. Alles in allem ein hochwertiger, komplexer Agricole , welcher überzeugt. Leider auch nicht günstig in der Anschaffung.

Ryoma 7-Year rum

Ryoma 7-Year review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Ennek tequila íze van,sosem felejtem el. Van még mit tanulni

Brugal Siglo de Oro rum

Brugal Siglo de Oro review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Sajnos már csak halványan emlékszem rá.ez volt életem első felsőkategóriás itala.újra kéne kóstolni

Brugal 1888 rum

Brugal 1888 review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Szerintem ez az ital a brugal érzés megtestesítőlye.imádom

Brugal Leyenda rum

Brugal Leyenda review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Brugal érzés, kicsit édesebben.Ezt már a nem brugal rajongók is meg tudják inni

Brugal Extra Viejo Gran Reserva rum

Brugal Extra Viejo Gran Reserva review posted over 2 years ago by PekAti (PREMIUM) 🇭🇺 | 103 ratings

Imádom a Brugálokat.az összeset.Van vmi durva íz, ami mindegyikben megvan,ettől lesz felismerhető és egyedi